A Mending Shift

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ATTENTION: Practicing Sinner Ordained!!

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This last weekend in Berkeley, CA—just outside San Francisco—an obviously practicing sinner was ordained as a card-toting member of the professional clergy. One brief glance at his attire and how he carried himself was all that was needed to see the obvious sin this man was involved in. Though as clear as day by those on the outside, this man claimed that his chosen lifestyle was not a sin despite the Bible’s stark denouncement and declaration as such. In fact, Sodom was destroyed by the anger of God for the sin this man was daily choosing to live in.

It was no surprise the church community that ordained him also practiced this God-detested lifestyle, turning a sin-justifying blind eye. Not only did they practice it, but they seemed to celebrate it to the point of incorporating aspects of this lifestyle into the very practices of the church. Before you jump to judgment about this Berkley church, keep in mind that they are not the only ones ordaining practicing sinners; it his happening more and more in our increasingly permissive culture. It is getting so bad that I am beginning to think they’ll ordain just about anyone nowadays.

But back to the man. During his post ordination celebration, a feast of unbelievable proportions—especially compared to the rest of the world—was consumed by the entire church. The man stood up in his polished suit while his wife and three kids joined him to thank the ordaining body and shared with the church his past accomplishments and future dreams for the church. Afterwords, he drove off in his Toyota Land Cruiser while his family piled into their Honda Odyssey. The celebration continued with family and friends at the pastor’s near 3,000 square foot home (which the church helped pay for) for a poolside BBQ. Christian music softly played through the house’s integrated speaker system. Once the exhausting day was over, they tucked their kids into their individual bedrooms while they themselves crawled into their king-size padded bed. Once glance at their checking account would show you where there heart lies and how much concern this newly ordained pastor has for the poor.

Ezekiel 16:49-50: “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.”

People ask me, Do you think practicing homosexuals should be ordained? My general return question is if they think practicing materialists, gluttons, pride-mongers and poor-ignorers should be ordained?

My response does not usually sit well in a religious culture trained on “yes and no” answers. I think that is because my answer points to a deeper issue we would prefer to remain hidden, namely, our love of judging and our capacity to ignore our culturally accepted sins. This issue of ordination, if looked at closely and honesty, points a freakin’ spotlight on our hypocrisy. And we don’t like that. I know I don’t.

The other issue it points at is this whole notion of ordained and non-ordained followers of Jesus. If the body of Christ was indeed being the body of Christ, it would not need to set apart a group of “professionals” to do the work of the ministry…we’d all be doing it! And yes, some would still have the gift of pastoring, but without the title and paycheck. They would simply be another member of the body operating in their gifts—which would be the norm.

To ask the question, Should homosexuals be ordained? would be like asking the question, Should people with specks in their eyes be ordained? when people with logs in their eyes are being ordained every day across the country and world. Perhaps Jesus was right, first we need to remove the logs out of our eyes and then we would be able to see clearly to remove the speck out of others’ eyes. As long as we sit log-eyed-and-proud in our churches, ordaining away people who justify our sinful lifestyles by their very own lifestyle, we do not have the right to say one word about other practicing sinners or their ordination. Period.

But it is a lot easier to judge the sins of others than it is to repent from our own culturally accepted ones. To do so would require us to look at our lifestyle through God’s eyes and maybe—God forbid—require us to change. We don’t like that. We want others to change. Not us.

Perhaps that was Jesus’ point. Perhaps that is why Jesus NEVER mentioned or referred to  homosexuality. Not once!

Perhaps that is why most of Jesus’ words centered around the dangers of wealth, greed, religious judgment, and the ongoing entrapment of the poor by wealthy and those in power.

Maybe that is why the Bible only references homosexuality in 6-10 places (depending on who you ask) and 800-3,000 about God’s concern for the poor and our wealth (again, depending on who you ask). For every 1 mention of homosexuality there are 133-300 about poverty and wealth. Please let that sink in. (By the way, even with my modest (for California) $40,000 annual salary, I am in the TOP 3.17% richest people in the world!).

My we have ears to hear.

(Perhaps you are still saying to yourself, “Just answer the question Jeromy, should homosexuals be ordained?” . . . I did).


About The Author

Jeromy Johnson
I live in Folsom, CA, with my wife, Jennifer, and three kids. I am surrounded by and cared for deeply by some great friends. Their love for me is truly a moonlit reflection of Papa's love, and for that, I am deeply blessed and grateful.

Comments

  • http://blog.revmike.us Rev. Mike

    Actually, Jesus never said anything about ordination either, so let’s start another line of reasoning then … which of these two is he least interested in?

  • http://www.accidentalweblog.blogspot.com Sarah

    Very well said. I’ve come to the same conclusions.

    Thanks for posting this. When one is trying to live counter-culturally in a context where even most believers embrace materialism (and try to baptize it in Christianity), it is so import to exhort and encourage one another.

    I have been on a journey out of this gluttonous, materialist “American-dream” culture and seeking for God to change my values and my lifestyle to reflect what He has clearly communicated in His word. Not an easy road without the encouragement of others who are making similar changes, or already living it out. Thanks again for posting! :)

  • Joy

    Jeromy,

    These are great thoughts! This is a conversation that needs to happen. These are questions that have driven me literally nuts.
    How my previous church lavished the tithe on itself…became a huge issue for me. I no longer felt I was acting wisely or carrying out good stewardship when giving to the church but instead…supporting a hydroheaded institution that could justify spending over 85% of its cash flow on themselves( in salary of pastors and dozens of auxillary staff…smoke machines and lighting for a ‘cool effect’ and numerous flat screen plasma TV’s to enhance worship in a cavernous rooms that would sit virtually empty monday thru Friday…while at the same time…( I kid you not) complaining about every dime that went out the door to help those who had the courage to ask for it…because they were seen as ‘using’ the system…

  • http://eyesofhope.wordpress.com Theresa Seeber

    I wish I had written this. I have so much respect for you. Thank you. This is perfect. I agree with what you present here, and am especially frustrated with ordination causing the church to sit idly by while the guy (or gal) we pay does the work of the Kingdom for us. People get soooooooooooooooo caught up in the gay issue, when there is sooooooooooooooooooo much more at stake in the Kingdom right now – like the fact that God’s will seems not to be done here as it is in heaven. Just today as I stood with a couple of other Christians who were discussing slightly-needed maintenance for the “church” parking lot, I said what I would love to see is us getting a quote for what it would cost (which they were already discussing) but then taking the money we would spend on the lot and helping to build a well in Africa instead. Why that makes God’s people uncomfortable is beyond me.

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  • Dan Rosch

    If only the people in church read their Bible or even sough to study it outside of Sunday.

    I clearly loath it when one sin is contstantly focused on. I know the whole homosexual agenda is pushed, but like you said Jeremey there are more pressing concerns sin issues out there. It’s crazy how these people who “work” for a church have such lavish salaries and stuff. If these people who get paid a huge chunk more than the average pastor at a average size church, understood the struggles the poor and financially unstable people went through on a daily basis, they might use their money a bit more wisely and might feel guilty as they fill up there was too expensive gas guzzling car for the 5 time this week as they drink their Starbucks. I don’t make much myself and I always find ways to give to the poor and unfortunate. I do this because I know and understand their struggle, but mostly because of the love I want to show to them as Christ does to me every day.

  • http://www.ramblingsofpassion.wordpress.com adam lehman

    and i think that this hits on something the homosexual community feels so strongly from the ‘christian’ community: singled out.

    Sure, Christians don’t have to endorse or promote homosexual lifestyles, but why the heck do Christians seem to make a career out of attacking homosexuals and they’re pursuit of “personal freedoms.”

    No other group is stigmatized by christians in the same way. Gosh, even xxxchurch has prostitues and famous porn stars sharing a stage with pastors at there events, but no one raises much fuss (and i don’t think they should, because i LOVE with xxxchurch is doing).

    homosexuals see just as clearly as christians that we christians are hypocritical. we are just a lot quicker to forgive/justify ourselves than we are to forgive others (opposite of what Jesus taught).

  • http://jeromyj.com/mendingshift/ Jeromy Johnson

    Sarah, thanks for sharing. Can I ask, what has been the reaction of those around you for choosing to live counter-culturally?

  • http://jeromyj.com/mendingshift/ Jeromy Johnson

    Joy, you said: “complaining about every dime that went out the door to help those who had the courage to ask for it…because they were seen as ‘using’ the system…” I too have seen this attitude from time-to-time, breaks your heart, doesn’t it?

  • http://jeromyj.com/mendingshift/ Jeromy Johnson

    Theresa, I think what makes some people uncomfortable is when they have to let go of things that are important to them. Those things could be anything: nice parking lots, relationships, power . . . fill in the blank. But that is what I think. You?

  • http://jeromyj.com/mendingshift/ Jeromy Johnson

    Dan, yet as soon as I write this I am aware that I am an ordained practicing sinner as well. I think the bigger point to Jesus’ words is that we are all in the same boat. Do I have Starbucks 5 times a week? No, but my pride and selfishness rose its ugly head yesterday and I found myself feeding it.

  • http://jeromyj.com/mendingshift/ Jeromy Johnson

    Adam, you said: “we are just a lot quicker to forgive/justify ourselves than we are to forgive/justify others” Bingo.

  • http://moffou.blogspot.com Amy Moffitt

    Fantastic post, Jeromy… you’re on a roll, my brother!

  • http://gracerules.wordpress.com/ Liz

    Jeremy – I love the way you used the scripture out of Ezekial about Sodom and Gomorrah since that story is often used to condemn homosexuality instead of using it to condemn the unhospitable acts of greed and indifference that are so clearly condemned in the story.

    I recently talked to someone who went to a church where a young man who was gay and dating (we’re not talking sex – just dating) was told he could not volunteer to work at the welcome center on Sunday mornings. I was outraged and heartbroken. WHY? What are they thinking? How can they do what they do? I can someewhat get past the individual who complained but I would expect the leaders/staff/pastors to counsel the individual who complained – not ban the young man from volunteering and participating in their community. We have so very far to go.

  • http://www.johnhobbs.wordpress.com John Hobbs

    Jeromy – I have a number of things I’d like to comment on but I’ll pick a couple to hopefully create some dialogue with your readers and then maybe come back for a few others. Here it goes.

    First, about ordained and paid ministers.

    “The other issue it points at is this whole notion of ordained and non-ordained followers of Jesus. If the body of Christ was indeed being the body of Christ, it would not need to set apart a group of “professionals” to do the work of the ministry…we’d all be doing it! And yes, some would still have the gift of pastoring, but without the title and paycheck. They would simply be another member of the body operating in their gifts—which would be the norm.” Jeromy Johnson

    As for Jesus and ordination, we find this passage:
    “And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach,” Mark 3:14

    Peter, one ordained by Jesus, in appointing someone to replace Judas in the ministry of Apostleship said:

    “For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.” Acts 1:20-22

    Paul, returning from Derbe to Lystra, Iconium and Antioch, ordained elders for all the churches:
    “And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.” Acts 14:23

    Now I mention these passages to validate the practice of ordination by Jesus, those that He ordained and those they ordained. This is not to say that all leaders in ministry should be ordained. But, clearly there are those who are to be ordained and set apart for specific service as directed by the Holy Spirit.

    There seems to be a lot of mud slung at Pastors who preach against sin and some who single out certain sins (i.e. Homosexuality) by those who are not Pastors. Some of these do so because they have been hurt by the moral or ethical sins and abused of some Pastors. This however does not mean we dismiss any of it; all the more we should raise the standard of righteousness and extend much grace. “Where sin abounds, grace abounds all the more.” But should there be sin, NO. There is no difference in God’s standard of righteousness between Leaders in ministry and others in the body. There is however a qualification for Leadership and it is to keep God’s standard. When Paul gives a qualification for leaders in 1 Timothy 3:1-12, he is not talking about one standard for leaders and another lesser one for everybody else. He means, to be qualified for leadership, that person must keep the standard of righteousness God gives to all of us. So many people expect their Pastors to treat them a certain way while they do not hold the same standard of conduct toward their Pastors. There is no double standard. We give grace to the sinner but we do not compromise on the qualification of Leadership whether, adulterer, homosexual, drunkard, violent, quarrelsome or lover of money.

    As for paid leadership (not that I place ordained and salaried as necessarily the same):

    “Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are not you my workmanship in the Lord? If to others I am not an apostle, at least I am to you, for you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord. This is my defense to those who would examine me. Do we not have the right to eat and drink? Do we not have the right to take along a believing wife, as do the other apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas? Or is it only Barnabas and I who have no right to refrain from working for a living? Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard without eating any of its fruit? Or who tends a flock without getting some of the milk? Do I say these things on human authority? Does not the Law say the same? For it is written in the Law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain.” Is it for oxen that God is concerned? Does he not speak entirely for our sake? It was written for our sake, because the plowman should plow in hope and the thresher thresh in hope of sharing in the crop. If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? If others share this rightful claim on you, do not we even more? Nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. Do you not know that those who are employed in the temple service get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in the sacrificial offerings? In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.” 1 Corinthians 9:1-14

    Again, the majority of complaints I hear about pay in ministry come from those who do no ministry but certainly have reaped the benefit of those who are. I believe some complaints are valid where there are abuses but something does puzzle me. If a man is trained to do something and then does that job, he expects to get paid and we have no problem with that. So, should I setup a counseling practice and get paid $75-$110+ an hour counseling, where honestly I would give the same advise I do from the pulpit for much, much, much less? Many who would reject the notion of a paid minister would say they have no problem with the psychologist or psychiatrist earning a living from what he does. Or maybe instead of all the crisis intervention I do with families and children, I should go to work for the Department of Social Services?

    I don’t believe we are being intellectually honest when we do not examine these things by scripture or judge out of hurt or anger. I don’t believe ordination or salary is the real issue. If we look deeper in our hearts we may find some more personal things at work.
    (And by the way, I am a Pastor who has not drawn a check from the Church I serve for almost a year.)
    Sorry for being so long winded. Blessings.

  • http://jeromyj.com/mendingshift/ Jeromy Johnson

    Hey John, what translation did you use? All I can find are the words appointed or designated.

    I almost didn’t place that part in about the merits of ordination because I thought it might distract from the main point of the post. As a pastor who was paid for 15 years of full time professional ministry, it is my opinion that what we have today, a set-apart group of professional people who do the work of the ministry, was never God’s intent. Does it do good? Absolutely. Am I here to judge anyone who is in the ministry? Absolutely not. But like I said above, is it necessary or even the best approach at being the body of Christ? In my opinion, no. I think there are better, more holistic ways. We have created a two (if not three) tier hierarchical system of pastors, professionals, and the normal people. And I hope I my intent came across in that paragraph you quoted.

    I have a lot of respect for those “in ministry”, mainly due to the fact that they are given WAY more to do and carry then what was ever intended. And with 1700 pastors a month leaving “the ministry” I think it points to a system that is not healthy. http://jeromyj.com/mendingshift/2009/03/21/faces-of-pastors-who-have-left-the-ministry/

    But again, my point wasn’t so much about to ordain or not ordain, but more about the double standards we have towards certain sins and the blind eye we turn towards others.

  • http://www.johnhobbs.wordpress.com John Hobbs

    Hey Jeromy – Let me first apologise for doing to you what I hate happening on my blog. I pulled something out of your post to comment on that pulled away from your main piont. I did that without thinking. I was not necessarily reacting to the paragraph you mentioned as much as some of the comments I was reading as well as having heard these kinds of comments in a number of other places. This probably should have been under your other post about Pastors leaving Ministry. You can let me know if I should continue this discussion somewhere else. I value youe input and your openness to tacle difficult issues. BTY, I don’t disagree with the main point of your post.

    As you have made aware of the problems with ministers leaving Churches and the difficulties they are going through, many of the comments I read do not help them as they devalue the life they have given to people, many ordained and paid or at least used to be. For many, their ordination was a symbol of their commitment to God’s calling and a recognition by other of that calling. And many have dedicated their life and some their whole life to train for and serve people with the utmost integrity. When this falls apart they are hurt, lost, unsure, insecure, angry, have a loss of bearings, and wonder what they could possibly do to provide for their families. To say ordination is not important or Biblical or to say they should not earn a living from their labor is both unbiblical and insulting. Thus the scriptures I provided.

    I am not trying to make a case for either ordination or paid ministers but I am saying that as the pattern of scripture provides and as Paul states the right to do so is valid though not commanded. It is therefore a matter of opinion as to whether it is the best way to do things. But if our main concern is the minister who no longer receives a paycheck, who is trying to figure out how to make a living and who many have had devistating experiences in the church then we cannot add insult to injury. Many people commenting don’t understand (which I know you do) this difficulty because they have never been in our shoes, but they are quick to make judgments without thinking how it speaks to these ministers.

    About the translation, I used the KJV. This is the problem with English translations that use different words. You are correct about the main uses in English being appointed or designated but isn’t that what ordination is – The setting apart of an individual for a specific task given by God.

    To your main point, I agree there is a double standard and we seem to make a category of major and minor sins. We additionally judge where we are guilty. I believed we would do well to observe what Paul said to the church in Corinth in 1 Corinthians 5. He told them we have no place judging those outside the Church (unbelievers) but we are to judge those inside the Church (believers). We should inside the Church call sin, sin equally. Our obligation to sinners outside the Church is to love. Our obligation to all is to extend grace. We must however, only judge inside the Church where needed and if we are not guilty of sin ourselves, thus making ourselves a hypocrite.

    I would like to also point out as in my last comment, that there is not a different standard of conduct for ministers and the rest of the body of believers. Believers too often hold leaders to behavior that they themselves do not hold to. Again a double standard.

    I do not think we should shrink back from calling Homosexuality sin simply because it is a sensitive social topic as we should not hold back from calling adultry, greed or any other sin for what it is – sin! We should not be soft on sin but greater in grace and love for people. We can do this if we see sin as what we do as opposed to who we are. Love the person and hold the sin accountable.

    Peace – John

  • http://jeromyj.com/mendingshift/ Jeromy Johnson

    John, no worries about sharing your heart here. In as much as some have been hurt by leaders in the church, it sounds like others (perhaps yourself) have been wounded by members of the church and those who do not respect the formal position of “pastor”. Thanks for swinging by and sharing your heart some more.

  • Marie

    I don’t get this frequent reference to “the homosexual lifestyle.” The homosexual couple I met last night are raising five (count ‘em : 5) children who were previously in permanent foster care (read: not really wanted by anybody). Explain to me where the ‘sin’ is in that “lifestyle” — a life that I myself certainly do not have the courage to take on.

    If you want to judge a ‘”lfestyle,” why not call it “bar-hopping” or “sleeping around” and admit that it’s just as popular among heterosexuals. But please, having one’s God-given sexual orientation called a “lifestyle,” condemned by people who do not know what they are talking about, is what we used to call, during the Civil Rights march years, “prejudice.” It’s time for followers of the Way to simply get out of the judging business.

  • http://jeromyj.com/mendingshift/ Jeromy Johnson

    Hi Marie, blessings and thanks for sharing your heart.

    Question, was this comment focused towards what I wrote in the post, or another commentor, or just a general comment?

    If it was towards the post, I’m a bit confused as the point of the post was to say that we need to stop judging homosexuals and pointed out our hypocrisy in doing so. The first three paragraphs were intentionally vague until I revealed the “lifestyle” I was speaking of was the one of greed and materialism. I was using language commonly used to judge homosexuals against the “stuff” we struggle with.

    You said: “It’s time for followers of the Way to simply get out of the judging business.” I couldn’t agree more!! Well said.

  • http://eyesofhope.wordpress.com Theresa Seeber

    Took me a while to get back. I think peeps think that the system we are in is the thing God had in mind, so to suggest that the parking lot not get done is to suggest the work of the Kingdom not get done. I just think people need to wake up to the sedation that has occured as we have sat in our pews these past generations and see that we resemble empire now instead of being the thing that is supposed to oppose empire.